FAQs
Where can I buy FrameFrog?
FrameFrog is sold through rep agencies to the ICT and Security Industry (Division 26-28), AND to the Hollow Metal Doors, Frames, and Hardware Industry (Division 8). Contact Ron Hicks at ron@framefrog.us or 513-702-5436 to be directed to the sales agent in your area.
How many versions of FrameFrog are there at this time?
FrameFrog now comes in two sizes and 3 Prep Kits. The large FRG4L was originally designed as a “one size fits all” solution, which still can be your approach if desired. However, a new smaller FRG4S was released on March 1, 2022, that fits frame prep openings up to 5” long. Where larger devices are used, such as an Electric Power Transfer, FRG4L is needed. Both models can be welded in the fabrication shop to a standard hollow metal frame of any depth with a 2” or larger face. Both can be field installed with wing tabs (sold separately) for connecting to door frames with a depth of 5 ¾” up to 9 ¼”. Prep Kits provide all the parts needed to fully prepare a door frame.
What is the lead time for delivery?
Depending upon stock and normal circumstances, FrameFrog can be shipped immediately. Contact Ron Hicks for available inventory and lead times for larger orders.
How many are there in a carton?
Prep Kits are sold 2 to a carton.
What types and sizes of frames does FrameFrog fit?
FrameFrog fits any standard profile hollow metal door frame with a 2” or larger face.
How many FrameFrogs are needed for a door frame?
FrameFrog is designed as a universal product that can be arranged in a wide variety of configurations, depending upon the designer’s and specifier’s needs. If FrameFrog is installed only where electrified hardware is specified, and no variations are ever contemplated in the future, then only one unit may be needed. If you desire flexibility for future modifications after the frame is installed, it may be prudent to install several FrameFrog units for a single-leaf door to provide a pathway for electric strikes, door position switches, electric power transfers, or even door jamb security cameras. Double doors may require more. FrameFrog provides a smooth, seamless pathway to virtually any electrified hardware device you may want to add to the frame in the future. See our configuration kits for the prep kits options.
What is FrameFrog made of? What material is the conduit?
FrameFrog is made of ABS plastic and is attached to PVC conduits with multipurpose adhesive.
Can you use PVC conduit in a commercial project?
PVC conduits are generally permitted when concealed within non-combustible construction, such as the hollow metal frame. PVC conduits are often not permitted to be exposed in ceiling plenums, and will need to be converted to EMT before exiting the wall construction. Consult your local code authorities for more specific codes and regulations.
How do you convert the conduit to Electric Metal Tubing (EMT)?
PVC conduit can be converted to EMT by use of a PVC Threaded nipple and EMT threaded insert, as demonstrated in the installation instructions.
Is FrameFrog approved by the National Electric Code?
FrameFrog is suitable for use with low voltage wiring up to a maximum of 30 volts. It is not approved for line voltage at this time.
Is the conduit part of the product?
FrameFrog fits standard ½” diameter PVC conduit, which is not provided with individual units but is provided with the Prep Kits.
Does FrameFrog work for Retrofits?
FrameFrog can be installed on existing or replacement hollow metal door frames, but will likely require one-time removal and repair of the surrounding wall surfaces in order to extend the conduit pathway to above ceiling. Once installed, the pathway provided by FrameFrog will serve for the life of the frame.
How does FrameFrog work in a Metal Stud and Drywall Partition?
We recommend the use of a Flush Z clip for anchoring door frames to metal stud construction using FrameFrog. The Flush Z clip will maintain clearance within the frame for the conduits that wrap the perimeter. A notch should be cut (or a hole drilled) into the Z clip where conduits need to pass by, as demonstrated in the installation instructions and video.
Does FrameFrog work for KD or Knock-Down Frames?
FrameFrog will work in any standard hollow metal frame profile. Knock-Down Frames will need to be assembled on the floor and the prep kit installed prior to tipping the frame up into the metal stud wall. The rough opening should be wider than the outside dimension of the frame, and strap anchors or full-depth (flush) metal stud jamb anchors should be used. Conduits that extend from FrameFrog boxes to above the ceiling should be connected before drywall finishes are installed.
Does FrameFrog work for Aluminum Storefront and Curtainwall Entrances?
FrameFrog was specifically designed to fit the unique profile of standard hollow metal frames. Aluminum Storefront and Curtainwall framing profiles vary by each manufacturer. The multitude of unique aluminum extrusions make a standard solution much more challenging. We have a solution in development at this time, so look for a new announcement in the future.
Does FrameFrog work for FRP Frames that are used at pool houses and waste water treatment plants?
Being ABS plastic, FrameFrog can be easily trimmed by use of an electric cut-off wheel in order to fit an FRP Frame that has a standard hollow metal door frame profile with a depressed door stop. The depressed door stop is needed in order for a standard PVC conduit sweep to clear as it wraps around the corner of the frame. Plastic Bonding Epoxies compatible with ABS and FRP can be used to glue FrameFrog into an FRP frame as well.
Is FrameFrog installed in a Fabrication Shop or in the Field?
FramFrog was designed to be shop or field installed. The wing tab secures the unit to the frame by compression to the backside of the frame hem. With the March 1, 2022 release of our new steel weld clip design, the plastic wing tab is now more suited for field installation. The steel weld clip eliminates the need for the plastic wing tab and is more conducive to welding to the frame in metal fabrication shops. As a result, weld clips are standard on all models and kits. Wing tabs can be ordered separately for field installation.
How do you justify the added cost? Does it save time?
Spending a few dollars on materials in order to save labor will always provide significant payback. FrameFrog can be installed in a frame faster than a conventional metal backbox. PVC conduits can be installed faster than metal because of the elimination of the EMT connectors as well as the ease of cutting and gluing PVC. The most significant savings is derived in the field where fishing wiring through a frame becomes seamless. Through the use of a funnel port design, running a fish tape through FrameFrog works the first time, every time, without obstruction. Because of the smooth sweeping pathways, wire installation can likely be accomplished by one person, cutting labor costs by up to 75% (or $600 per opening).